Colmes: By the way, it also points out in an Esquire magazine interview that you acknowledge taking part in homosexual sex and bestiality in the seventies --
Horsley: [laughs] That's my point, Alan, I mean, just --
Colmes: Is that true?
Horsley: -- because it's printed in the news media or on the Internet everybody jumps to believe it, but in reality if I state [?] the truth, people say that's not --
Colmes: Is that true?
Horsley: Hey, Alan, if you want to accuse me of having sex when I was a fool -- I did everything that crossed my mind that looked like it might feel good. [inaudible]
Colmes: You had sex with animals?
Horsley: -- as an active hedonist. Absolutely. I was a fool.
Colmes: [incredulously] You had sex with animals?
Horsley: Oh, I -- when you grow up on a farm in Georgia, your first girlfriend is a mule.
[There is a pause.]
Colmes: I'm not so sure that that is so.
Horsley: Well, that's because you didn't grow up on a farm in Georgia. Did you.
Colmes: Are you suggesting that everybody who grows up on a farm in Georgia has a mule as a girlfriend?
Horsley: I'm saying that it has historically been the case! You people are so far removed from reality --
Colmes: Look, I'll admit, Neil, I'm a city boy, I don't know a lot about growing up on a farm.
Horsley: Oh, well, welcome to domestic life on the farm!
Colmes: But I think for you to say -- for you to say --
Horsley: Welcome to domestic life on the farm!
Colmes: There are a lot of people listening, Neil, there are a lot of people listening right now who live on farms, are raising kids on farms, who grew up on farms, and I don't think they're dating Elsie right now, you know what I'm saying?
Horsley: The fact of the matter is that if they don't know that in fact you experiment with anything that moves when you're growing up sexually, you're naive, and you know better than that! You know yourself, if it's warm and if it's damp and it vibrates you might in fact have sex with it.
Colmes: No, not me, thank you! No, thanks!
Horsley: Oh, come on! You've never masturbated, did you, Alan?
Colmes: That's not the issue here. We're not talking about --
Horsley: [inaudible] your own --
Colmes: No, we're not talking about self-love. We're talking about love with objects that are a little bit different than human form, you know what I'm saying?
Horsley: A person who is depraved and who has nothing but their own sexual desires to guide you, they'll do anything --
[The discussion moves on to whether or not Horsley had any of his girlfriends have abortions. Horsley denies it and says that none of the women he got pregnant had abortions.]